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Post by Kickass32 on Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:37 am

Looks like Cat Zingano has been signed by Bellator and will fight at Featherweight....looking to build what the UFC couldn't
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:56 am

Kickass32 wrote:Looks like Cat Zingano has been signed by Bellator and will fight at Featherweight....looking to build what the UFC couldn't

Always where she was gonna end up. She'll likely win some but also likely get murdered by Cyborg!
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:34 am

Yeah at this stage I'm not even sure she wins some....unless they feed her a couple serious cans
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:11 am

Bellator 235 fight card:

Main card: 10:00 PM Paramount Network/DAZN

Josh Barnett vs. Ronny Markes: Heavyweight

Erik Perez vs. Toby Misech: Bantamweight

Veta Arteaga vs. Alejandra Lara: (W) Flyweight

Ty-wan Claxton vs. Braydon Akeo: Featherweight

Joey Davis vs. Chris Cisneros: Welterweight

Prelims: 8:45 PM online

Case Bell vs. Pierre Daguzan: Bantamweight

Ty Gwerder vs. Joseph Creer: Middleweight

Hunter Ewald vs. Brysen Bolohao: Welterweight



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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:12 am

Josh Barnett fights for Bellator now????? When did that happen
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Post by Kickass32 on Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

I guess Barnett got pulled for medical reasons and the main event is off
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Post by Kickass32 on Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:42 pm

Liz Carmouche signs with Bellator
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Post by jax on Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:04 am

Kickass32 wrote:I guess Barnett got pulled for medical reasons and the main event is off

Ha, did he piss hot again?
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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:01 pm

jax wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:I guess Barnett got pulled for medical reasons and the main event is off

Ha, did he piss hot again?
They said he got pulled when he got to the building.....says he was sick but we shall see
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Post by jax on Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:20 am

Kickass32 wrote:
jax wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:I guess Barnett got pulled for medical reasons and the main event is off

Ha, did he piss hot again?
They said he got pulled when he got to the building.....says he was sick but we shall see

Any news yet? maybe he thought going to Bellator he could juice back up but still got caught....but of course just thinking out loud.
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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:03 am

Nope, I haven't heard a thing on it since that day
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:27 am

jax wrote:
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jax wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:I guess Barnett got pulled for medical reasons and the main event is off

Ha, did he piss hot again?
They said he got pulled when he got to the building.....says he was sick but we shall see

Any news yet? maybe he thought going to Bellator he could juice back up but still got caught....but of course just thinking out loud.

I believe he was just genuinely sick. The talk is that he's gonna fight Fedor next.

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Post by Kickass32 on Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:33 am

I'm actually interested in that fight. Although Fedor announced his "retirement" after the Rampage fight
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Post by jax on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:13 pm

That is  a good fight and should have happened a decade ago...but Bellator is kinda a retirement tour for a lot of fighters anyhow.
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:01 am

Kickass32 wrote:I'm actually interested in that fight.  Although Fedor announced his "retirement" after the Rampage fight
Fedor didn't announce his retirement, the translator fucked up. Fedor cleared it up in the post fight presser, what he'd said was that he wouldn't fight in Japan again, he has 2 fights left in Bellator though.

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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:30 am

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Kickass32 wrote:I'm actually interested in that fight.  Although Fedor announced his "retirement" after the Rampage fight
Fedor didn't announce his retirement, the translator fucked up. Fedor cleared it up in the post fight presser, what he'd said was that he wouldn't fight in Japan again, he has 2 fights left in Bellator though.
Oh ok.....that makes sense then
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:31 am

jax wrote:That is  a good fight and should have happened a decade ago...but Bellator is kinda a retirement tour for a lot of fighters anyhow.
I'm fine with Bellator doing this as long as it's done right
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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Bellator fires Paul Daley for saying 100% accurate facts
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Paul Daley announced on Instagram that he’s been fired from his TV analyst role at Bellator due to comments he made regarding Michael Page’s opponents:

“You can’t continually beat these kinds of opponents. Yes, he knocks them out, but he’s expected to knock them out.”
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Post by Hired_Merc on Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:20 am

Big John was ridiculous during MVP entrance. Saying he's fought better competition than Anderson Silva... nope.
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:43 am

Hired_Merc wrote:Big John was ridiculous during MVP entrance. Saying he's fought better competition than Anderson Silva... nope.

BJM is maybe the worst colour commentator in the game, he's awful. I get that these dudes are trying to sell their fighters, but dammit man, at least make it sound rational.

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Post by Kickass32 on Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:54 pm

Hired_Merc wrote:Big John was ridiculous during MVP entrance. Saying he's fought better competition than Anderson Silva... nope.
I saw that on twitter and thought, nah this has to be a joke....but gawd damn if he didn't actually say that absurd shit
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Post by Kickass32 on Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:55 pm

BluenoseGreig wrote:
Hired_Merc wrote:Big John was ridiculous during MVP entrance. Saying he's fought better competition than Anderson Silva... nope.

BJM is maybe the worst colour commentator in the game, he's awful. I get that these dudes are trying to sell their fighters, but dammit man, at least make it sound rational.
Oh he is fucking terrible....like HORRIBLY TERRIBLE...and his in cage interviews, while not as bad as Tito's, come kinda close
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Post by jax on Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:21 pm

Yea they are all so bias against the UFC its not even funny. Josh Thompson going on about how Bader can beat anybody and so can Lima and on and on.
Of course BJM had his past probs with UFC so he's going to do his thing.
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:43 am

jax wrote:Yea they are all so bias against the UFC its not even funny. Josh Thompson going on about how Bader can beat anybody and so can Lima and on and on.
Of course BJM had his past probs with UFC so he's going to do his thing.

Yeah, I understand trying to sell their fighters as being very good, but a little realism wouldn't be a bad thing. That said, I'd love to see Lima fight the best in the UFC, he has looked amazing lately and probably would be a legit challenge to Usman, etc.

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Post by Hired_Merc on Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:47 am

I mean, it's not like MVP is a bad fighter. Nobody thinks that, but no way in hell he'd survive in UFC
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:24 pm

Hired_Merc wrote:I mean, it's not like MVP is a bad fighter. Nobody thinks that, but no way in hell he'd survive in UFC
Agreed, although I think he COULD be in some interesting fights
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Post by jax on Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:47 pm

I agree with Lima, but not sure MVP would survive against an elite wrestler, it always helps to get favourable matchups.
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:05 am

Hired_Merc wrote:I mean, it's not like MVP is a bad fighter. Nobody thinks that, but no way in hell he'd survive in UFC

I guess that depends on what you mean by survive. He would easily beat a good chunk of the WW roster, and a guy like say Mickey Gall seems to survive in the UFC despite being bang average at best. Would he compete with the elite, I doubt it very much but there are for sure some at the top he could beat.

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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:03 am

Bellator 238 results:

Cyborg (22-2 MMA, 1-0 Bellator) defeated Julia Budd (13-3 MMA, 7-1 Bellator) for the women's featherweight championship on Saturday during Bellator 238 at The Forum in Inglewood, California, with a fourth-round TKO. The victory came in her Bellator debut and marked her fourth different promotional title after she thrived as a champion with Invicta FC, Strikeforce and UFC.

Cris Cyborg def. Julia Budd via TKO — Round 4, 1:14

Darrion Caldwell def. Adam Borics via submission (rear-naked choke) — Round 1, 2:20

Juan Archuleta def. Henry Corrales via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Sergio Pettis def. Alfred Khashakyan via submission (guillotine choke) — Round 1, 3:00

Raymond Daniels def. Jason King via TKO — Round 1, 3:07

Emilee King def. Ava Knight via submission (rear-naked choke) — Round 1, 2:18

Aaron Pico def. Daniel Carey via KO (punch) — Round 2, 0:15

AJ Agazarm def. Adel Altamimi via submission (triangle choke) — Round 3, 1:22

Jay Jay Wilson def. Mario Navarro via submission (armbar) — Round 2, 2:48

Miguel Jacob def. David Pacheco via unanimous decision (30-27. 30-26, 30-27)

Anthony Taylor def. Chris Avila via majority decision (28-28, 29-28, 29-28)

Curtis Millender def. Moses Murrietta via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-26, 30-26)

Joshua Jones def. Brandon Bender via unanimous decision (30-26, 30-27, 29-27)
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Post by jax on Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:54 pm

I think Cyborg will be happy there beating lesser opponents although Budd was no slouch.
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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:35 pm

Cyborg is now a 4 organization Champ: Strikeforce, Invicta, UFC and now Bellator.

Question is now, will Dana put Cris into the HOF?
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Bellator president Scott Coker reveals Cris Cyborg will most likely fight Arlene Blencowe next

“Arlene Blencowe, I didn’t want to say it, but she’s number-one on that list. I think she’s got a record of 13-7, has lots of experience. If she wants to do it, we’ll get it on.” said Coker.


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Post by jax on Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:25 pm

Hof? hard not to....but I'm sure she'll finish her career crushing cans.
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:54 am

Cris certainly deserves the HOF but I was just wondering about Dana and his vendetta's and stubbornness....the man can hold a grudge...lol
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:09 am

Bellator payouts:

Cris Cyborg ($250,000 + no win bonus = $250,000) def. Julia Budd ($350,000)

Darrion Caldwell ($25,000 + no win bonus = $25,000) def. Adam Borics ($28,000)

Juan Archuleta ($50,000 + no win bonus = $50,000) def. Henry Corrales ($38,000)

Sergio Pettis ($30,000 + $30,000 win bonus = $60,000) def. Alfred Khashakyan ($10,000)

Raymond Daniels ($20,000 + no win bonus = $20,000) def. Jason King ($3,000)

Emilee King ($3,000 + $3,000 win bonus = $6,000) def. Ava Knight ($5,000)

Prelim/Postlim card

Tony Bartovich ($1,500 + $1,500 = $3,000) def. Jarrett Connor ($1,200)

Ricardo Seixas ($2,000 + $2,000 = $4,000) def. Dominic Clark ($2,000)

Joshua Jones ($2,250 + $2,250 = $4,500) def. Brandon Bender ($2,000)

Aaron Pico ($22,500 + $22,500 win bonus = $45,000) def. Daniel Carey ($10,000)

AJ Agazarm ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Adel Altamimi ($14,000)

Jay Jay Wilson ($5,000 + $5,000 win bonus = $10,000) def. Mario Navarro ($2,000)

Curtis Millender ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus = $16,000) def. Moses Murietta ($4,000)

Anthony Taylor ($3,000 + $3,000 win bonus = $6,000) def. Chris Avila ($3,000)

Miguel Jacob ($1,500 + $1,500 win bonus = $3,000) def. David Pacheco ($1,500)
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 am

Ok, a few takeaways here......how does Cyborg get out earned?

How does a fighter on the main card make only 3K

How does any professional fighter only make $1500 for a fight

Does anyone know how much Pettis was making in the UFC?
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:24 am

Found this from UFC 229 payouts:

Sergio Pettis: $56,000 ($46,000 to show, $10,000 fight week incentive pay)

That's on a loss so Pettis seems to be making MUCH less in Bellator
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Post by Kickass32 on Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:01 am

Just had a quick look, Cyborg made 500K for her title defence against Holly Holm......big pay decrease there, but she can make up some of that through sponsors now
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Post by Hired_Merc on Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:37 am

Yeah sponsors will boost them way higher. They desperately need to bring them back I think. Better for the fights and personally, think it makes the shorts look better too.
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:33 am

jax wrote:I think Cyborg will be happy there beating lesser opponents although Budd was no slouch.

Cyborg at least now fighting girls her size, in the UFC she was fighting 125 and 135'rs. Either way, she is leagues above the competition, so it doesn't really matter where she fights. The only fight worthy of seeing her in, she lost, and had no desire to rematch.

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Kickass32 wrote:Cyborg is now a 4 organization Champ: Strikeforce, Invicta, UFC and now Bellator.

Question is now, will Dana put Cris into the HOF?

100% should be in the HOF, but then so should Frank Shamrock and others, so I wouldn't hold your breath!

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Kickass32 wrote:Bellator president Scott Coker reveals Cris Cyborg will most likely fight Arlene Blencowe next


“Arlene Blencowe, I didn’t want to say it, but she’s number-one on that list. I think she’s got a record of 13-7, has lots of experience. If she wants to do it, we’ll get it on.” said Coker.


http://wmmarankings.com/bellator-president-scott-coker-reveals-cris-cyborg-will-most-likely-fight-arlene-blencowe-next/

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Kickass32 wrote:Ok, a few takeaways here......how does Cyborg get out earned?

How does a fighter on the main card make only 3K

How does any professional fighter only make $1500 for a fight

Does anyone know how much Pettis was making in the UFC?

Crazy that Cyborg is earning half of what she was paid in the UFC, and they can claim sponsirs will be greater but no way they fill that shortfall. She was still sponsored by many companies whilst in the UFC, just no fight day visibility. There was talk recently that fighters get more sponsors now than before because of the use of social media to promote rather than fight day. Anyhoo, crazy how poorly she's paid here.

Pettis too, he chose to refuse a deal in the UFC, so how is he being paid less too? I wonder if there is a 'signing on' fee involved here?

As for how does someone get paid $1500, Bellator are known to pay as little as $250 to fighters on the undercard. Coker tried to explain it as they are giving them a chance to get a contract basically, in the past as an excuse! Check it here https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/3/11/17105532/click-debate-why-does-bellators-pay-structure-look-different-than-ufc-scott-coker-explains

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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:13 am

Hired_Merc wrote:Yeah sponsors will boost them way higher. They desperately need to bring them back I think. Better for the fights and personally, think it makes the shorts look better too.
Oh absolutely, they look so much better than the "uniforms"
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Kickass32 wrote:Cyborg is now a 4 organization Champ: Strikeforce, Invicta, UFC and now Bellator.

Question is now, will Dana put Cris into the HOF?

100% should be in the HOF, but then so should Frank Shamrock and others, so I wouldn't hold your breath!
Yeah that's what I'm saying...although Dana did cave and put in Miletich didn't he?
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:16 am

BluenoseGreig wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:Bellator president Scott Coker reveals Cris Cyborg will most likely fight Arlene Blencowe next


“Arlene Blencowe, I didn’t want to say it, but she’s number-one on that list. I think she’s got a record of 13-7, has lots of experience. If she wants to do it, we’ll get it on.” said Coker.


http://wmmarankings.com/bellator-president-scott-coker-reveals-cris-cyborg-will-most-likely-fight-arlene-blencowe-next/

Great, the girl who lost twice to Julia Budd!
LOL...awesome.
I have seen rumors of Cat Zingano getting the next shot
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:19 am

BluenoseGreig wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:Ok, a few takeaways here......how does Cyborg get out earned?

How does a fighter on the main card make only 3K

How does any professional fighter only make $1500 for a fight

Does anyone know how much Pettis was making in the UFC?

Crazy that Cyborg is earning half of what she was paid in the UFC, and they can claim sponsirs will be greater but no way they fill that shortfall. She was still sponsored by many companies whilst in the UFC, just no fight day visibility. There was talk recently that fighters get more sponsors now than before because of the use of social media to promote rather than fight day. Anyhoo, crazy how poorly she's paid here.

Pettis too, he chose to refuse a deal in the UFC, so how is he being paid less too? I wonder if there is a 'signing on' fee involved here?

As for how does someone get paid $1500, Bellator are known to pay as little as $250 to fighters on the undercard. Coker tried to explain it as they are giving them a chance to get a contract basically, in the past as an excuse! Check it here https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/3/11/17105532/click-debate-why-does-bellators-pay-structure-look-different-than-ufc-scott-coker-explains

There is no way....no fricken way a "professional" fighter should be making that little to fight for a major organization. that's absolutely fucking embarrassing. Having said that, it is there choice, it doesn't affect me so let them fight it out with the orgs.
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Post by Kickass32 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:31 pm

Josh Barnett vs. Ronny Markes targeted for Bellator 241
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:58 pm

Kickass32 wrote:
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Kickass32 wrote:Bellator president Scott Coker reveals Cris Cyborg will most likely fight Arlene Blencowe next


“Arlene Blencowe, I didn’t want to say it, but she’s number-one on that list. I think she’s got a record of 13-7, has lots of experience. If she wants to do it, we’ll get it on.” said Coker.


http://wmmarankings.com/bellator-president-scott-coker-reveals-cris-cyborg-will-most-likely-fight-arlene-blencowe-next/

Great, the girl who lost twice to Julia Budd!
LOL...awesome.
I have seen rumors of Cat Zingano getting the next shot

Just as bad, Cat has won 1 fight in the last 5 years.

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