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Post by Hired_Merc on Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:03 am

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October 26, 2019
Singapore Indoor Stadium
Kallang, Singapore


Main Card (ESPN+)

Welterweight - Demian Maia vs. Ben Askren
Lightweight - Michael Johnson vs. Stevie Ray
Lightweight - Frank Camacho vs. Beneil Dariush
Heavyweight - Ciryl Gane vs. Don’tale Mayes
Welterweight - Muslim Salikhov vs. Laureano Staropoli


Preliminary Card (ESPN+)

Women's Strawweight - Randa Markos vs. Ashley Yoder
Lightweight - Alex White vs. Rafael Fiziev
Featherweight - Enrique Barzola  vs. Movsar Evloev
Heavyweight - Sergei Pavlovich vs. Maurice Greene
Women's Strawweight - Loma Lookboonmee vs. Aleksandra Albu
Heavyweight - Raphael Pessoa Nunes vs. Jeff Hughes
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Post by Kickass32 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:05 am

Askren loses and goes to Bellator and fights Danis?
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Post by Hired_Merc on Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:36 am

Only just tuned in, only interested in the Maia vs Askren fight.
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Post by Hired_Merc on Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:50 am

The stand up was pretty even. So was the grappling until the very end. Maia wins RNC in third.
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Post by jax on Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:53 am

Askren continuing to try to take down Maia and grapple with him was ill advised, but with Askren having maybe the worst standup in the UFC his choices were limited, CC and Usman used their wrestling as defense while beating Maia on the feet for most part. Askren trying td's against Maia reminded me of Cain taking down Werdum.
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Post by Kickass32 on Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:41 am

Askren is essentially 0-3 in the UFC now....yes he was gifted the win against Lawler but really he idn't win that fight.....but regardless, he has not proved to anyone he is much more than an average fighter
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Post by Hired_Merc on Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:54 pm

Kickass32 wrote:Askren is essentially 0-3 in the UFC now....yes he was gifted the win against Lawler but really he idn't win that fight.....but regardless, he has not proved to anyone he is much more than an average fighter

There's zero shame in losing to the guys he's lost to imo. Maia will submit anyone who's willing to go the ground with him, Masvidal has become a top fighter with his style of not giving a fuck. Lawler he did beat, Lawler has zero issue with the outcome.
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Post by jax on Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:16 pm

Well that's just it, taking Maia down multiple times will only lead to bad things which it did, and that's Askren waking up looking at the ref above him just like did in last fight. not sure who Askren should fight next but i think he is a little more humble after these last 2 fights.
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Post by Kickass32 on Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:34 pm

Hired_Merc wrote:
Kickass32 wrote:Askren is essentially 0-3 in the UFC now....yes he was gifted the win against Lawler but really he idn't win that fight.....but regardless, he has not proved to anyone he is much more than an average fighter

There's zero shame in losing to the guys he's lost to imo. Maia will submit anyone who's willing to go the ground with him, Masvidal has become a top fighter with his style of not giving a fuck. Lawler he did beat, Lawler has zero issue with the outcome.
Askren has the official W for the Lawler fight, but he didn't win it, and it's not so much the loses, it's how bad he's looked
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Post by BluenoseGreig on Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:58 pm

Askren looked awful, but he always does......but usually manages to bully his opponent and smother them on the ground...….not Maia! To be fair to Ben, he's faced elite WW's, no shame in losing but it's not a sign he will ever be a challenger.

Thought this card delivered above expectation given the poor quality, but one big plus was Cyril Gane, that dude looks legit...….and given a bit of time, a possible contender at HW.
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Post by mu_shin on Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:11 pm

Was really up for this one, ju jitsu vs wrestler, and this time the jits was tops.

I've been a fan of Ben Askren, but can't disagree that since finding higher level opposition in the UFC, he has not set the world on fire, nor has he backed up much of the trash he's famous for talking. Didn't read the article, but saw a headline today saying Askren was considering retirement...

Also been a fan of Damian Maia for years, as nobody does modern ju jitsu in an MMA context better. If you can keep him off of you with powerful striking and takedown defense, he's proven he can be neutralized, but if you can't, you pretty much end up where Askren did, waking up trying to figure out what happened, or discovering which of your joints have been damaged. Great win for Maia, and could be a career turning point for Askren...
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Post by Kickass32 on Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:46 am

There is a place in the UFC for Askren, much like there is for most decent fighters as long as the matchups are made correctly.
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Post by jax on Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm

Exactly, lots of potential fights for him he just has to realize now that he isnt the fighter he thinks he is and will likely never be champ in the UFC.
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Post by Kickass32 on Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:22 am

I actually wouldn't mind an Askren vs. Pettis fight
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